﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:trackback="http://madskills.com/public/xml/rss/module/trackback/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"><channel><title>BlogJava-朝着自己微笑的小胖-随笔分类-互联网</title><link>http://www.blogjava.net/shijian/category/48329.html</link><description /><language>zh-cn</language><lastBuildDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:22:17 GMT</lastBuildDate><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:22:17 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title>What are some interesting startups in China?</title><link>http://www.blogjava.net/shijian/archive/2011/04/16/348398.html</link><dc:creator>石建同学</dc:creator><author>石建同学</author><pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 05:08:00 GMT</pubDate><guid>http://www.blogjava.net/shijian/archive/2011/04/16/348398.html</guid><wfw:comment>http://www.blogjava.net/shijian/comments/348398.html</wfw:comment><comments>http://www.blogjava.net/shijian/archive/2011/04/16/348398.html#Feedback</comments><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.blogjava.net/shijian/comments/commentRss/348398.html</wfw:commentRss><trackback:ping>http://www.blogjava.net/shijian/services/trackbacks/348398.html</trackback:ping><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">参照：<a href="http://www.quora.com/What-are-some-interesting-and-innovative-startups-in-China"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">http://www.quora.com/What-are-some-interesting-and-innovative-startups-in-China</span></a><br />
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; "><strong>2011年的中国互联网还有什新奇的事发生吗 ？</strong><br style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; " />
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1.团购:美团、拉手等（烧钱阶段，抢用户、流量，用户体验必须提升，如：退款等服务；预测：再有1年时间，团购巨头就会形成）<br />
2.在线租书 : booksfly（有创意，但目前的运营方式很难有大的成长）<br />
3.图片搜索 : taotaosou (有创意和前途，目前：用户体验差、效果差)<br />
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4.微薄：新浪、腾讯（蒸蒸日上，新浪占据主导地位）<br />
5.垂直化社交网站：Mtime、果壳（新方向，垂直化的社交会去慢慢蚕食）<br />
6.rss服务：鲜果（无自己特点）<br />
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7.网页游戏 : 忍者村、三国杀（赚钱的行业，但游戏生命周期短的特点值得考虑）<br />
8.在线音乐 : 豆瓣电台、酷狗（推崇豆瓣的简约，做到了极致）<br />
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9.在线存储 : 微盘、DBBank<br />
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10.手机应用：豌豆荚、VivaMe(阅读器\传媒)、街旁(lbs)<br />
11.UC乐园(UC社交平台，尽管UCWeb是入口，有着先天优势)<br />
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<hr /><br />&nbsp;PS：以下纯属个人YY，随手记录<br /><br />1.亲子、育儿教育社区 + 电商，如何做 ？淘宝<span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; background-color: #b0e0fa; "><a title="http://baby.taobao.com/" href="http://t.cn/blAkG" target="_blank" mt="url" action-type="feed_list_url" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0078b6; word-wrap: break-word; ">http://t.cn/blAkG</a>&nbsp;全是tms静态页面<img src="http://img.t.sinajs.cn/t35/style/images/common/face/ext/normal/15/j_org.gif" title="[囧]" alt="[囧]" type="face" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; " />&nbsp;专业亲子网站排名&nbsp;<a title="http://www.iwebchoice.com/Html/Class_41.shtml" href="http://t.cn/SwZSXr" target="_blank" mt="url" action-type="feed_list_url" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0078b6; word-wrap: break-word; ">http://t.cn/SwZSXr</a></span><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">题记：在淘宝广告技术部工作快</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">1</span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">年，写点自己对广告的认识</span></em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Simsun; color: black; "><br />
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</span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">目前在淘宝主要存在这样几种形式广告</span></span><span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#444444"> </span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">：</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPT</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">、</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">、</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPS<br />
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1.CPT<br /></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">
cost per time </span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">按时长计费。大部分属于品牌广告，主要着重于品牌形象的宣传。比如：淘宝中屏滚动广告，如</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8220;dell</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">、九牧王</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8221;</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">。特点：</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">a</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">、价格非常贵</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; "> b</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">、位置少。</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;
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CPM </span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">（</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">Cost Per
ThousandImpression</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">）按千次展现次数计费。能够为广告主带来稳定的</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8220;</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">广告展现</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8221;</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">，但效果是未知数，具体要看投放的媒体，以及场景的相关性。能为有流量的站点带来稳定的收入。</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;
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2.CPC<br /></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">
cost per click </span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">按点击计费。如：</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">google ads</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">、淘宝直通车，都是根据词的竞价排名，决定展示那个广告主的广告。</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:#444444"><br />
</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">目前淘宝大部分收入来自于直通车。</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#444444"><br />
</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">如：在淘宝，搜</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8220;</span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">诺基亚</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; "> N<st1:chmetcnv unitname="&#8221;" sourcevalue="73" hasspace="False" negative="False" numbertype="1" tcsc="0" w:st="on"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">73&#8221;</span></st1:chmetcnv></span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">，首先做</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8220;</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">搜索词归一化</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8221;</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">，匹配为与竞价词相关的词，再根据竞价词去搜索。谁出价高，并根据用户的信誉度等因素，决定出谁的广告。</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;
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</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">站在长远的发展，淘宝直通车的目的：</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">1.</span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">增加淘宝收入</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; "> 2.</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">促进成交。如果仅仅是点击最大化，增加淘宝的收入，但并没有为卖家带来成交，则卖家的出价必然会降低，对于双方来说都是</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8220;</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">双输</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&#8221;</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">的局面。所以必须站在促进成交的前提下，通过直通车不断提升淘宝自身的收入增加。</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;
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3.CPS<br /></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">
cost per&nbsp;Sales </span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">按成交计费。据说：某淘宝广告去日本时在一家书店看到的营销模式，回到淘宝后，决定做</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">"</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">淘宝客</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">"</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">。</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">cps</span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">模式更加关注的是&#8220;长尾流量&#8221;，因为长尾</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">publisher</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">，流量质量一般来说不是很高，如果按照前面说到的</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">3</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">种方式计费，对广告主来说是不公平的。但根据成交，分成给长尾</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">publisher</span></span><span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">，既能保证广告主的利益，也满足广告主营销、推广的目的。同时也能够给</span></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">publisher</span></span><span style="color: #444444; "><font face="宋体"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">带来收入。</span></font><br /></span></p></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#444444" face="Verdana"><br />小思考：<br /><br /></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; 目前淘宝有</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">8</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">亿商品，仅淘宝自身的广告位置，完全不能满足卖家推广、营销的目的。所以淘宝会去买外部广告位（如优酷），或者与外部网站以&#8220;分成&#8221;的模式合作（</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">google</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">）。</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; "><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; 其实，淘宝也在建立自己的广告联盟，类似于&#8220;圈地运动&#8221;，去累积足够多的流量、渠道，到时怎么玩，都是由自己决定。</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">其实目前的淘宝广告外投，对于客户来说是不透明的，卖家不知道自己的广告是否被外投，与淘宝站内的广告相比，站外的广告效果还是要差很多（会基于成交效果给予广告主打折），准确的说&#8220;淘宝的广告主是被外投&#8221;。</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&nbsp; &nbsp; 其实，目前淘宝联盟，对于广告主与网站主自主选择仅有</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPT</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">计费模式，当广告位无广告时淘宝联盟会自动推送</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPS</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">模式广告。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">模式广告，在淘宝联盟目前的网站主管理模式下，无法推广</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">广告。原因是，目前网站主没有明确的层级结构，对于</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">广告，流量好坏决定最后的成交率，相比</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPT</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">模式</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">更加赚钱，大量流量差的投放</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">广告，会导致</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">cpc</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">（单次点击消耗）降低，肯定对淘宝广告的收入会有非常大的影响。淘宝如果要开放</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">模式给外部网站主，必须有明确的层级结构、站内</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&amp;</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">站外竞价区分。</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">&nbsp; &nbsp; 外投每天能为淘宝带来大约</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">300</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">万收入，但对于主动获取广告的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">publisher</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">来说没有智能匹配模式、没有灵活的定制化界面、多样的创意。当站内</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">趋于饱和时，如何开拓好外投，对于淘宝直通车则是必然的趋势。而</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPS</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">自然去占据长尾流量，</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">CPC</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; ">如何占据主外部中型网站，则是至关重要的。</span></p>
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